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Oct 6, 2022Liked by Sane Franciscan

Great interview! Thanks ❤️

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Jan 15·edited Jan 15Liked by Sane Franciscan

Terrific interview! With my profound thanks to both of you, here is a transcript:

Beige Against The Machine:

Shades of Beige: Judea Johnson

Micropixie aka MPX, Sane Francisco

posted September 27, 2022 [filmed in 2021]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6V95H676X4

TRANSCRIPT

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[Music by Micropixie]

TEXT ON SCREEN [in an art collage by Micropixie]:

BEIGE

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TEXT: Judea Johnson

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TEXT: In 2020, many medical freedom communities formed worldwide in response to increasingly nonsensical measures enforced in the name of "public health"

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TEXT: I met Judea at a Bay Area community gathering. A mother, a chef, and a nutritionist, she is the first person I interviewed for this series.

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TEXT: (At the time of publishing, this interview is over a year old. In my opinion, however, much of what is said not only still holds, but is also becoming more relevant by the day.)

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JUDEA JOHNSON: My name is Judea Johnson. I've lived in the Bay Area for 14 years.

TEXT: What is your take on the pandemic?

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JUDEA JOHNSON: I think the pandemic is kind of an orchestrated, exaggerated flu. I think there is an illness out there. It looks very much now with a year and a half's worth of data that it's on par with a flu, maybe a bad seasonal clue. Seems to really be devastating for the elderly or people with many pre-existing conditions, seems to really spare kids and young people, so I think that the response especially is overblown and an excuse to kind of come in with a lot of authoritarian and tyrannical orders.

TEXT: Who, in your opinion, is orchestrating it?

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JUDEA JOHNSON: I think it's, you know, kind of a globalist agenda, the elites which I don't even like to call them that but, you know, a lot of very wealthy, powerful people. It seems like they're looking to reinvent capitalism and, and swoop in with kind of this next stage of capitalism because a lot of the resources they've gotten rich on are running out. And looks like, like we the humans are the next target, we're the next capital.

TEXT: How were you affected by the events of 2020?

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JUDEA JOHNSON: I was affected by the events of 2020 in numerous ways. I think most profoundly my daughter who was 14 I guess at the very beginning and quickly turned 15, she was finishing her freshman year of high school, she's just had a really devastating year. The closure of schools has impacted not only her grades and her kind of future prospects, but her mental health in a big way. She's never had any of these kind of issues with depression and, you know, just deep kind of apathy that we've seen come out in her. She really thrives on her peers and structure in a school setting and that was ripped away from her, in addition to any extracurricular activities, hanging out, wow, what have you.

She got straight A's her first semester in high school and proceeded to, you know, just do pretty, you know, average or subpar for what she's capable of this year, so I think that's a real big indication that, of how hard this has been on her.

And then just kind of a little on a lighter level, I am a big traveler, I love to travel, I love to experience other cultures in the world, and that all came to a screeching halt last summer 2020. I was supposed to go to Portugal and Morocco, couldn't do that, and haven't left the country since all of this went down.

TEXT: Did you change your behaviour and lifestyle during this time?

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JUDEA JOHNSON: I haven't changed much in terms of my behavior or lifestyle because of the pandemic. I've never been afraid of getting sick. I trust that I'm strong with a strong immune system, and the same for my husband and kids. We focus a lot on really good nutrition, nutrient dense food, good supplements, so no, in terms of changing behavior to try to avoid a virus, no, I have not worn a mask when not necessary, I've continued to gather with and hug friends and even meet lots of great new people over the last year. So no major behavioral or lifestyle changes, although, like I said, much less travel.

TEXT: Did you notice anything weird about people's behavior?

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JUDEA JOHNSON: Yeah, I thought a lot was weird. I thought, I thought the way everything kind of just came to a sudden screeching halt was bizarre, and how everyone just kind of accepted it without much evidence and proof. I'm a big why person so I, I always want to know, I want to see, okay, we're doing this, why? What's the reason?

I thought that the mask stuff that was instituted here in the Bay Area really early on was insane. And again, no data to back this up, and the only studies that were done prior to 2020 showed that masks are ineffective and can even increase respiratory viral infection and transmission. So the mask thing certainly, super weird. Super, yeah.

TEXT: Did you ever wear a mask?

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JUDEA JOHNSON: I've worn a mask. I don't think anyone here in the Bay Area has been able to get through you know 15, 16 months without wearing a mask occasionally. All of the grocery stores around me required a mask and early on, throughout the summer, I really tried to push back and, you know, get in without one and claim exemptions, and they didn't care. They didn't care if you have a medical exemption, they didn't care if you had a valid excuse. At a certain point they just would not let you in for food. So yeah I had to put a muzzle on to go get my groceries occasionally. And I have wanted to fly a handful of times over the last year and a half, that was a trade-off I was willing to take. I got the most breathable mask I could, but I figured the, the boost to my sanity and being able to get out of California a few times was was worth the, the mask.

TEXT: Did you get the Covid-19 Vaccine?

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JUDEA JOHNSON: I have not gotten the covid-19 vaccine and I never will get the covid 19 vaccine.

TEXT: Why won't you ever get the Covid-19 Vaccine?

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JUDEA JOHNSON: Well, first and foremost it's rushed and experimental. The trials are ongoing and aren't set to finish until 2022 or 23, depending on the manufacturer. And I also believe that the risk of this virus is fairly low, or quite low, in someone my age and with my health status and I don't think the risk benefit analysis makes any sense.

TEXT: Will your children ever get the Covid-19 Vaccine?

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JUDEA JOHNSON: Same for them. One is 18 now and so he's gonna start to have to make these decisions for himself, but I think we've laid a good foundation and we constantly talk about the risk versus the benefits, so hopefully he'll choose wisely.

TEXT: Before 2020, did you vaccinate your children?

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JUDEA JOHNSON: Before 2020 my children and, still to this day, have never received any vaccinations. It's because we believe in our body's ability to fight infection if it's healthy and give them the raw materials it needs to stay healthy and maintain a strong immune system.

Also, you know, I did research. I didn't just come to this willy-nilly. There's a lot of data that shows that most of the childhood infections that we vaccinate for started to disappear in society before the introduction of mass vaccination, and that was mostly due to good sanitation, proper sewage, refrigeration, and nutrition improved, so those things really sent those childhood infections like measles and mumps, rubella, polio is a kind of a longer story.

TEXT: Would you call yourself an anti-vaxxer?

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JUDEA JOHNSON: So I wouldn't call myself an anti-vaxxer, but I don't really mind the term. But I think I have a different feeling than a lot of people who have stopped vaccinating who have vaccine injured children. A lot of friends who have vaccinated and, and then harm came to their children, don't like that term I think, number one because they did vaccinate, they're not anti-vaxxers, they vaccinated and it caused harm to someone they love. I think it's used as a derogatory kind of insult to lump anyone who questions vaccines into kind of a quack, clueless, uneducated thoughts.

TEXT: Do you identify with any political party?

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JUDEA JOHNSON: I do not. I'm more left-leaning for sure, but the two main political parties in the United States do not represent me, do not speak for me, do not help me in any way so, no.

TEXT: What are your thoughts on Black Lives Matter?

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JUDEA JOHNSON: I think the concept of Black Lives Matter is wonderful, and I support it, and I've been to Black Lives Matter protests and rallies. I think that systemic and institutional racism is real and still affecting black folks hundreds of years later. There's an enormous wealth gap, mass incarceration levels are much higher for black folks, so in concept it's great. I think the organization Black Lives Matter has some issues, and I question its intent now, I question its um support and financial donations.

TEXT: What do you think of the labels given to people who think similarly to you?

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JUDEA JOHNSON: Well, I am someone who questions lockdowns, but I'm not a Q Anon, right-wing conspiracy theorist whatever label they try to throw at us. I would respond by saying, you know, look at me and look at my, my past and my life. I, I'm more of a left-leaning politically person. I'm certainly not white, and I don't think I'm a conspiracy theorist, either. I think I do a ton of research and my views are are based on that.

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